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senator feinstein asked for protesters to be removed from the room. i was not able to catch a glimpse of the banner they were holding. it's not unusual to see these disruptions. but we'll get more on exactly what was going on there but these are live pictures right now. you hear the gavel but just quickly -- let's just -- we were going to talk about hagel but i want to talk about brennan. you are expecting fireworks, right? that's what we've been talking about. >> i think we expect brennan to be confirmed, especially considering polls on drones, for example, show 83% of americans a year ago support the president's use of drones overseas. that doesn't mean that there isn't a significant and deep disaffection for the use of them or, for example, we talked about it yesterday, or the which are or enhanced interrogation techniques as the bush administration called it. all of that is stuff john brennan knows a heck of a lot about and people will be outraged he is president obama's nominee. >> we discussed this prior but originally we thought, you know, the
senator feinstein asked for protesters to be removed from the room. i was not able to catch a glimpse of the banner they were holding. it's not unusual to see these disruptions. but we'll get more on exactly what was going on there but these are live pictures right now. you hear the gavel but just quickly -- let's just -- we were going to talk about hagel but i want to talk about brennan. you are expecting fireworks, right? that's what we've been talking about. >> i think we expect...
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dianne feinstein had a little different take in terms of the high-value targets. this is what she said. >> having the executive being the prosecutor, the judge, the jury, and executioner all in one is very contrary to traditions in the laws of this country. particularly in this ditch away to where there is time. if a soldier on the battlefield does not have time to go to court, if you're planning a strike over a matter of days, weeks, or months, there is an opportunity to least go to some outside of the executive branch body like the fisa court in a top-secret way, make the case that this american citizen is an enemy combatant. >> i think is worthy of discussion. our tradition, judicially, is a court of law is used to determine one's guilt or innocence for past actions for it which is very different from the decisions made on the battlefield as well as actions taken against terrorists. because none of those actions are to determine past built for those actions they took. the decisions made are to take action so we prevent a future action to protect american lives.
dianne feinstein had a little different take in terms of the high-value targets. this is what she said. >> having the executive being the prosecutor, the judge, the jury, and executioner all in one is very contrary to traditions in the laws of this country. particularly in this ditch away to where there is time. if a soldier on the battlefield does not have time to go to court, if you're planning a strike over a matter of days, weeks, or months, there is an opportunity to least go to some...
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i do know, though, that senator feinstein has finally gotten, she's the chairman of the senate intelligence committee, has finally gotten a report out of the committee, through the republicans and senate vote, allegedly it's 6,000 pages long. and it covers all things torture. and she's very upset about the film. and she believes that whatever you want to say about torture and its human rights violations, that it did not produce the intelligence that the film suggests that it did. >> and she says the use of these harsh interrogation techniques was quote "far more systematic and widespread than we thought." but how do we ever know if that report isn't published? >> this is one of the problems with oversight of national security matters. some of these things have to remain secret. you can debate over which ones should and which ones shouldn't. but someone has to decide that this information can be released without harming national security. and i don't see that happening any time in the near future. it is possible that some of the findings could get out, though, in a declassified version. >> c
i do know, though, that senator feinstein has finally gotten, she's the chairman of the senate intelligence committee, has finally gotten a report out of the committee, through the republicans and senate vote, allegedly it's 6,000 pages long. and it covers all things torture. and she's very upset about the film. and she believes that whatever you want to say about torture and its human rights violations, that it did not produce the intelligence that the film suggests that it did. >> and...
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. >> but it was about handguns >> the president and dianne feinstein talk about handguns and is ruled in chicago the toughest surviving handgun law, enough already. they will not tell the american people what to do as long as we are possessed of the second amendment. of the government can encroach the second, fourth, 14th second, fourth, 14th, firs t, where does a and? >> the next conversation is the drones. lou: this same administration sending drones nobody hates the radical islamic terrorist more than i do or to kill them if they are an american citizen i do not want rights suspended but a judicial proceeding and a finding to kill that person. >> bandstand. the argument is that slows down the process we heard a couple of factors that has to be of imminent threat. lou: against the interest of united states, a very simple but we talk about those instances there is that a judicial proceeding we talk about the that are not imminent. for those who have a knee-jerk reaction, janet hippolyta on know, 2011 had a potential threat of terrorism, right wean extremism, and veterans, a pro-life,
. >> but it was about handguns >> the president and dianne feinstein talk about handguns and is ruled in chicago the toughest surviving handgun law, enough already. they will not tell the american people what to do as long as we are possessed of the second amendment. of the government can encroach the second, fourth, 14th second, fourth, 14th, firs t, where does a and? >> the next conversation is the drones. lou: this same administration sending drones nobody hates the radical...
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intelligence committee chairwoman dianne feinstein said despite reports drones have killed hundreds of civilians -- >> the figures we've obtained from the executive branch which we have done our utmost to verify confirm that the number of civilian casualties that have resulted from such strikes each year has typically been in the single digits. >> john: which would make anyone opposed to the drone war killing civilians feel so much better. on the plus side, senator feinstein provided plans to provide oversight of the drone war. >> i also intend to review proposals for regulation -- excuse me, for legislation to ensure that drone strikes are carried out in a manner consistent with our values. and that the proposal to create and an na log of the foreign intelligence surveillance court to review the conduct of such strikes. >> john: it is worth noting a 2012 poll shows americans already think drone strikes are consistent with our values. nearly four out of five adults approve the use of drone strikes against terrorist suspects overseas. 2/3 suspected using drones to kill american terroris
intelligence committee chairwoman dianne feinstein said despite reports drones have killed hundreds of civilians -- >> the figures we've obtained from the executive branch which we have done our utmost to verify confirm that the number of civilian casualties that have resulted from such strikes each year has typically been in the single digits. >> john: which would make anyone opposed to the drone war killing civilians feel so much better. on the plus side, senator feinstein...
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feinstein said it's no big deal that we killed them and if you knew what we know. yeah, why don't you share. why don't you ask john bran anyone who's in front of you going to be the next head of the c.i.a. if you vote for him, what evidence did you have to kill awlkai and his 16-year-old son in a different strike, who is also a u.s. citizen. there are no coincidences. we killed him and another u.s. citizenual with him in a separate strike, we accidentally happened to kill someone else in his family, a 16-year-old, also a u.s. citizen. those questions didn't get asked. asked who made the decision to execute a 16-year-old u.s. citizen, was it you or someone else? >> weirdly the u.s. senators were polite and did not ask. they asked interesting questions including this question. >> i never believe it's better the to kill a terrorist than to detain him. we want to detain as many terrorists as possible to elicit the intelligence from them to stop terrorist attacks. we only use these authorities and capabilities as a last resort. >> cenk: oh, yeah. you wanted to retain hi
feinstein said it's no big deal that we killed them and if you knew what we know. yeah, why don't you share. why don't you ask john bran anyone who's in front of you going to be the next head of the c.i.a. if you vote for him, what evidence did you have to kill awlkai and his 16-year-old son in a different strike, who is also a u.s. citizen. there are no coincidences. we killed him and another u.s. citizenual with him in a separate strike, we accidentally happened to kill someone else in his...
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if you strip out the ar-15 from the equation and take all the guns out, that senator feinstein wants to take out -- wait a minute. you're still left with 2,200 guns you can legally buy. >> the problem is you're obsessing over one gun that a bad human being has used a couple of times. >> no, no, wait. >> no, no, let me finish. hold on a second. >> the past five mass shootings in america. >> guess what, the last shooting that i could have been a victim of, it wasn't an ar-15. you're obsessed over the ar-15. have you ever had a gun to your head? >> no. >> have you ever had a man look you in the eyes and say i'm going to your head off? >> no. >> with expletives while grinning? i had a gun to defend myself. i didn't have an ar-15. he didn't have an ar-15. >> why would you need an ar-15 in that situation? >> you're missing the point. >> i'm not missing the point. >> anything is an assault weapon when it's in the bad hands of the bad person. the gun used that night was not on the special list that the senator wants to have out there, the list of guns. you know what? that gun that night was
if you strip out the ar-15 from the equation and take all the guns out, that senator feinstein wants to take out -- wait a minute. you're still left with 2,200 guns you can legally buy. >> the problem is you're obsessing over one gun that a bad human being has used a couple of times. >> no, no, wait. >> no, no, let me finish. hold on a second. >> the past five mass shootings in america. >> guess what, the last shooting that i could have been a victim of, it wasn't...
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and remember, historically speaking, it was dianne feinstein who got the old assault weapons ban passed in 1994, and nobody thought she could have done it then either. on the other side of congress, in the republican-controlled house, the leading voice for gun reform is of course democrat carolyn mccarthy, who lost her >>> it took until two and a half years into his first term as president. it took until more than halfway through his first term for president obama to put to rest the absolutely nutty electric kool aid acid test right wing fantasy conspiracy theory that he was secretly foreign, therefore secretly not really president of the united states at all. >> we do not have time for this kind of silliness. we got better stuff to do. i've got better stuff to do. we've got big problems to solve. >> it took that act in april 2011, the release of the president's long formed birth certificate to finally quiet the wild incoherent questioning of president obama's citizenship. yeah, right. of course, that did not quiet those conspiracy theories on the right. if those things could be disprov
and remember, historically speaking, it was dianne feinstein who got the old assault weapons ban passed in 1994, and nobody thought she could have done it then either. on the other side of congress, in the republican-controlled house, the leading voice for gun reform is of course democrat carolyn mccarthy, who lost her >>> it took until two and a half years into his first term as president. it took until more than halfway through his first term for president obama to put to rest the...
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quite lively during the hearing i actually asked her about five interruptions from protesters dianne feinstein who's the head of the committee and up kicking everybody out of the room so all the media and in the general public ended up having to leave the hearing and they resumed the hearing while the members of the media and the public were outside and we do have that clip and confusion going on during. all right that we do have that clip we just want to let's just play let's got quite chaotic wanted to play this clip how we got off to a start. they apply my yes i. know her. writing her. was ok. how are. all right i think we're. obviously drones are very controversial a lot of heated opinions when it comes to the drone campaign just and i want to ask you john brennan he's described as being the architect of the drone campaign what is the extent of his involvement what is his record when it comes to drones. well his nomination today is quite controversial so it was four years ago that he was obama's first considered him for the cia but he withdrew his consideration because of his association w
quite lively during the hearing i actually asked her about five interruptions from protesters dianne feinstein who's the head of the committee and up kicking everybody out of the room so all the media and in the general public ended up having to leave the hearing and they resumed the hearing while the members of the media and the public were outside and we do have that clip and confusion going on during. all right that we do have that clip we just want to let's just play let's got quite chaotic...
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>> dianne feinstein, the chair of the committee yesterday still saying yesterday they wanted the original documents. then today on our program at 1:00, the house chairman, who carries a lot of weight about and has is very supportive, a former fbi guy, a republican, though, said he also thought the original memos should be turned over, that the white paper that had been turned over to them last summer that michael isikoff uncovered and reported first on your show was not good enough. that it needed to finally be the actual legal guidance that was turned over to the oversight committees. and we're talking about the two intelligence committees, rachel, who handle classified information all the time. and there haven't been any leaks out of those committees. so they were facing a confirmation hearing that was potentially contentious. and also, other answers were given to the committee that were revealed today from john brennan. we can talk about that after a moment. they knew that there were other issues they were going to have to deal with. they needed to get this off the table. >> well, in t
>> dianne feinstein, the chair of the committee yesterday still saying yesterday they wanted the original documents. then today on our program at 1:00, the house chairman, who carries a lot of weight about and has is very supportive, a former fbi guy, a republican, though, said he also thought the original memos should be turned over, that the white paper that had been turned over to them last summer that michael isikoff uncovered and reported first on your show was not good enough. that...
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and remember, historically speaking, it was dianne feinstein who got the old assault weapons ban passed in 1994, and nobody thought she could have done it then either. on the other side of congress, in the republican-controlled house, the leading voice for gun reform is of course democrat carolyn mccarthy, who lost her husband to gun violence before she entered politics. she tells us, quote, i'm looking forward to seeing what the senate majority puts together, because it's clear that the house majority will only follow from there. so congresswoman mccarthy effectively saying that gun reform starts with the democrats in the senate. that's as ambitious as any of this is ever going to get. whatever the senate democrats do on this issue will set the bar for republicans in the house to compromise away from. you're never going to get any better than what you get from senate democrats. you might get significantly worse. in other words, aim high. the story line here is far from complete, but at least the arc of how this is going to happen is starting to get clear. my bad. tell me you have good
and remember, historically speaking, it was dianne feinstein who got the old assault weapons ban passed in 1994, and nobody thought she could have done it then either. on the other side of congress, in the republican-controlled house, the leading voice for gun reform is of course democrat carolyn mccarthy, who lost her husband to gun violence before she entered politics. she tells us, quote, i'm looking forward to seeing what the senate majority puts together, because it's clear that the house...
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senator feinstein was obviously working behind the scenes. and so finally last night around 6:30, 7:00 last night, the white house relented and the president called wyden. i know you guys are going to talk to wyden later. but this is a very big deal because now the drone policy is going to be central to this confirmation hearing today. >> you know, yesterday pete wehner wrote this. and he's quoting barack obama from may 29th, 2009, the famous speech at the national archives. where he says, let me be clear. we are at war with al qaeda, but we need to update our institutions and do so with an abiding confidence in the rule of law and due process. in checks and balances and accountability for reasons i will explain, the decisions were made over the last eight years during the bush years established an ad hoc legal approach for fighting terrorism that was neither effective nor sustainable. a framework that failed to rely on our legal traditions and time-tested institutions and that failed to use our values as a compass. those words, steve, whethe
senator feinstein was obviously working behind the scenes. and so finally last night around 6:30, 7:00 last night, the white house relented and the president called wyden. i know you guys are going to talk to wyden later. but this is a very big deal because now the drone policy is going to be central to this confirmation hearing today. >> you know, yesterday pete wehner wrote this. and he's quoting barack obama from may 29th, 2009, the famous speech at the national archives. where he...
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widen is the leader of the rebellious group on the senate intelligence committee, not the chair, dianne feinstein who we'll be talking to tomorrow. but ron widen is asking this question and down at the retreat in annapolis, he told our own mike viqueira, every american has the right to know when their government believes that it is allowed to kill them. >> you know, this is an issue that puts president obama at odds with his base. when he came into the white house, he was very critical of the bush administration for waterboarding, for enhanced -- he called for more transparency. the administration has not been transparent. it's only because of a leak that we know as much as we do about the targeting of american, how it's done, when it's allowed. and that's why we're going to have a discussion about this and that's also why it does not imperil brennan's nomination. because the people who are most distressed about there are part of the core democratic groups that are going to vote with the president i think when it comes to john brennan. but it is an opportunity to have a conversation that we have
widen is the leader of the rebellious group on the senate intelligence committee, not the chair, dianne feinstein who we'll be talking to tomorrow. but ron widen is asking this question and down at the retreat in annapolis, he told our own mike viqueira, every american has the right to know when their government believes that it is allowed to kill them. >> you know, this is an issue that puts president obama at odds with his base. when he came into the white house, he was very critical of...
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. >> i want to read senator diane dpin stei feinstein, her statement this morning says in part as president obama said at time of his death, alaki was the operations leader of aqap. he directed the failed attempt to blow up an airplane on christmas day 2009 and responsible for attempts to blow up cargo planes in 2010. recruiting others to kill americans until the time of his death in yemen. essentially people read in to that this is a statement that the bad guys were planning something. so this is what needs to happen. you hear a lot of people say, how can you defend these people who were plotting against americans. >> right. so let's just assume that everything that that statement says about al alawaki is true? this is going to be true of others killed by drone strikes. they have not been under him. one was khan that grew up here in new york. another was a 16-year-old kid. nobody has ever alleged he did anything wrong. you have to make sure that you have checks and balances in place because some of the people that the government target may not be the worse guys in the world and make sure t
. >> i want to read senator diane dpin stei feinstein, her statement this morning says in part as president obama said at time of his death, alaki was the operations leader of aqap. he directed the failed attempt to blow up an airplane on christmas day 2009 and responsible for attempts to blow up cargo planes in 2010. recruiting others to kill americans until the time of his death in yemen. essentially people read in to that this is a statement that the bad guys were planning something....
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senator feinstein -- >> senator feinstein -- [indiscernible] do your job. we are making more enemies. >> please proceed. mr. brennan, the next time we will clear the chamber and bring people back in one by one. this witness is entitled to be heard, ladies and gentlemen, so please give him that opportunity. >> thank you. i thank you on behalf of my family in new jersey, especially my mother -- [indiscernible] who emigrated from ireland 65 years ago. >> i have a list with all of the names -- >> all right, which are run to halt the hearing. i am going to ask that the room be cleared and that the code pink associates not be permitted to come back in. it has been done five times now, and five times is enough. so we will recess for a few minutes. [applause] [indiscernible] all right. ladies and gentlemen, if you would mind leaving, we will then have you come back in, but it is the only way i think we are going to stop this. we will recess for a few minutes. [indiscernible] john? john? john? [indiscernible] >> stop the killing of pakistani children. >> clear the a
senator feinstein -- >> senator feinstein -- [indiscernible] do your job. we are making more enemies. >> please proceed. mr. brennan, the next time we will clear the chamber and bring people back in one by one. this witness is entitled to be heard, ladies and gentlemen, so please give him that opportunity. >> thank you. i thank you on behalf of my family in new jersey, especially my mother -- [indiscernible] who emigrated from ireland 65 years ago. >> i have a list with...
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. >> that is senator feinstein and there is another hearing on tuesday which will be classified. we go to the republican line. caller: i'm impressed with the quality of this candidate. i'm grateful for his education and there is no comparison between the quality of this man and chuck hagel. they are in different sandboxes. i'm very grateful for people like this who we desperately need in times like this. >> we go to the independent line. this is doug, welcome to the conversation. caller: thanks for taking my call and thanks to c-span. i think the only one that had any sanity and knew the questions that were going to be asked. we did not get any answers to them. how is the decision made? what are the requirements? the independent said we should have a court that regardless who the president is they should not have a unilateral way to document nominate someone. people in this country don't know about the mddaa, the national defense thorgs act which allows the president to designate a person who he feels is a terrorist or supporting terrorist organizations to deprive him of life, li
. >> that is senator feinstein and there is another hearing on tuesday which will be classified. we go to the republican line. caller: i'm impressed with the quality of this candidate. i'm grateful for his education and there is no comparison between the quality of this man and chuck hagel. they are in different sandboxes. i'm very grateful for people like this who we desperately need in times like this. >> we go to the independent line. this is doug, welcome to the conversation....
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the committee's chair, dianne feinstein, eventually cleared the room. later, brennan cited the protesters when he addressed what he called a misperception about the goal of the drone strikes. let's listen. >> i think there is a misimpression on the part of some american people who believe that we take strikes to punish terrorists for past transgressions. nothing could be further from the truth. we only take such actions as a last resort to save lives when there's no other alternative to taking an action that's going to mitigate that threat. so we need to make sure there is an understanding, and the people that were standing up here today, i think they really have a misunderstanding of what we do as a government and the care that we take and the agony that we go through to make sure that we do not have any collateral injuries or deaths. >> robin, when he described this as a last resort to save lives, one reaction i had is, among the lives we save when we use drones are those of troops who otherwise would be going into harm's way. >> absolutely. i lived i
the committee's chair, dianne feinstein, eventually cleared the room. later, brennan cited the protesters when he addressed what he called a misperception about the goal of the drone strikes. let's listen. >> i think there is a misimpression on the part of some american people who believe that we take strikes to punish terrorists for past transgressions. nothing could be further from the truth. we only take such actions as a last resort to save lives when there's no other alternative to...